moving from life to eternal life

Ron Martoia wrote an interesting post regarding how we understand the world and how that understanding should be reshaped by following Jesus. You can read it here.

Although I struggle with Ron’s choice of language because it feels “new agey” to me (which may come from my conservative religious background), I think he makes a very good point. In my opinion it ties directly into the nature of eternal life.

Throughout the gospels Jesus uses metaphors to describe what the community that he is creating is supposed to look like. Key to this concept is the fact that it is impossible for an individual to experience the kind of life Jesus is describing on their own. It takes the work of Jesus in one’s life.

This is where Ron’s post comes in. There’s another side to this coin. True, it is the Holy Spirit that works in us to transform us so that we can experience what Jesus is describing. With that said, however, God chooses not to force us into this experience. We have to choose to trust him and follow him. In point 2 of Ron’s application he talks about removing negative self-talk. This is an issue of trust. Jesus has promised that the experience of new life, eternal life, the kingdom of God (all of which I believe are metaphors for the same experience) is available now. Yet, we don’t live it. We don’t experience it. Because we don’t believe it. Instead we tell ourselves that it’s not for us. It’s something we’ll experience in heaven. It’s for the super-spiritual. It’s an ideal that was never intended for us to experience.

Do you trust Jesus or not? Do you believe his promises or not? Look through the gospels and see what Jesus has promised you. Stop telling yourself that you can’t trust Jesus and walk in the life that he has given you.


~ by bryonharvey on December 31, 2008.

3 Responses to “moving from life to eternal life”

  1. Bryon, I have to commend you for the awareness that some of our language misgivings might be due to background. We all have it and only awareness of it will allow us to grow through it or past it. Let me make one comment about language, which you know I think is a huge issue. We often get turned off by language, make associations with language, or choose not to use language based upon current cultural usage. Your new agey comment fits this situation…and rightfully so, I fully understand. But one of the things I am always sensitive to is how we get negatively biased against using certain language in the Christian church that really is our heritage and within our historical domain but because of certain current usage we are gun shy. I don’t know if you have read far enough in TA to get to a quote where the author I quote says…”God’s desire is that we become dazzling gods, radiant in splendor…etc….” Of course that sounds new agey, marianne williamson-ish…but it happens to be CS Lewis. It is a good example of how we do have to be careful we don’t give up language that we could just as easily redeem.

  2. I have a question for you.
    What do you think of my new blog entry?

    Thank you,

    • Denny,
      Well… I think you have made some valid claims regarding historical and hermeneutical errors that are supported by some churches.

      Your overall argument, however, is a hasty generalization fallacy. I have yet to find a church that actually matches the one you’ve described. The post is a vitriolic polemic against things you disagree with. I think the post is a poor representation of Christ because of the argumentative tone and the blatant attack on other Christ-followers. Please remember that as you look to see God glorified that Jesus said the world would know we are his disciples by the love we show to each other (John 13:35). I feel your post misses the mark when seen through that filter.

      Thank you for sharing your thoughts with me.

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